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		<title>By: John Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.returncustomer.com/2009/03/18/why-customers-hate-convenience-fees-for-credit-card-transactions/#comment-106401</link>
		<dc:creator>John Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 18:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I know they are just passing along their fees to the customer. But the customers don’t know that. They are just hit with a 3-4% “fee” that greatly increases their out-of-pocket expenses.&quot;

Erm... and if you send in a check, how much does it cost them to process that/ Truth is, they already factor in the administration costs and the &quot;convenience fee&quot; is just a way to charge more money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I know they are just passing along their fees to the customer. But the customers don’t know that. They are just hit with a 3-4% “fee” that greatly increases their out-of-pocket expenses.&#8221;</p>
<p>Erm&#8230; and if you send in a check, how much does it cost them to process that/ Truth is, they already factor in the administration costs and the &#8220;convenience fee&#8221; is just a way to charge more money.</p>
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		<title>By: jack dempsey</title>
		<link>http://www.returncustomer.com/2009/03/18/why-customers-hate-convenience-fees-for-credit-card-transactions/#comment-105236</link>
		<dc:creator>jack dempsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 05:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, as a consumer all I have to say is this.  There is a liquor / convenience store that I would go to and purchase beer and maybe snacks for myself and wife.  I used to buy cigarettes in there as well.  Anyway,  about 9 months ago I went in there and wanted to buy a 6 pack of but light.  The cost was around 6 or 7 dollars.  The clerk at the store told me they required a minumum purchase of 10 dollars to use credit card.  Needless to say, I told them I did not want anything else and just wanted the beer.  They pointed in the direction of a ATM they had in their shop that would dispense cash in order to avoid the 10 dollar minimum, but they charged 3 dollars to pull out money.  I know I am rambling, but I don&#039;t go to that store anymore.  As a matter of fact, I don&#039;t go to any store that expects minimums.  They have a choice, accept cash only or get potentially more customers and accept credit according to their policy of no minumum required purchase.  Here is a good analogy.  I can walk to work or enjoy the convenience of driving to work, but that does not preclude me from having to obey traffic laws.  If you decide to increase your potential customer base by accepting credit cards, expect to accept the good and the bad.  You can&#039;t have your pie and eat it too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, as a consumer all I have to say is this.  There is a liquor / convenience store that I would go to and purchase beer and maybe snacks for myself and wife.  I used to buy cigarettes in there as well.  Anyway,  about 9 months ago I went in there and wanted to buy a 6 pack of but light.  The cost was around 6 or 7 dollars.  The clerk at the store told me they required a minumum purchase of 10 dollars to use credit card.  Needless to say, I told them I did not want anything else and just wanted the beer.  They pointed in the direction of a ATM they had in their shop that would dispense cash in order to avoid the 10 dollar minimum, but they charged 3 dollars to pull out money.  I know I am rambling, but I don&#8217;t go to that store anymore.  As a matter of fact, I don&#8217;t go to any store that expects minimums.  They have a choice, accept cash only or get potentially more customers and accept credit according to their policy of no minumum required purchase.  Here is a good analogy.  I can walk to work or enjoy the convenience of driving to work, but that does not preclude me from having to obey traffic laws.  If you decide to increase your potential customer base by accepting credit cards, expect to accept the good and the bad.  You can&#8217;t have your pie and eat it too.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Rawlinson</title>
		<link>http://www.returncustomer.com/2009/03/18/why-customers-hate-convenience-fees-for-credit-card-transactions/#comment-104740</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Rawlinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michael - up front pricing should definitely include all fees. This type of transparency immediately builds trust with the customer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michael &#8211; up front pricing should definitely include all fees. This type of transparency immediately builds trust with the customer.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.returncustomer.com/2009/03/18/why-customers-hate-convenience-fees-for-credit-card-transactions/#comment-104682</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 11:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The US is so backwards compared to other countries with regards to paying fees online. Elsewhere in the world it is encouraged by businesses to automate as much of the business as possible, as it is much cheaper to process a payment online, compared to the actual physical handling of a payment.

I know in this great, capitalist country, squeezing the last dime out of your customers is applauded. (Yes, that was a bit sarcastic - there are lots of things I do like about the US). It doesn&#039;t just stop at convenience fees, other &quot;hidden&quot; fees often apply when making a purchase, or entering into an agreement with a service provider. At least in the European Union, all fees has to be included in the advertised price up front. No need to rob the customers blinds through the backdoor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US is so backwards compared to other countries with regards to paying fees online. Elsewhere in the world it is encouraged by businesses to automate as much of the business as possible, as it is much cheaper to process a payment online, compared to the actual physical handling of a payment.</p>
<p>I know in this great, capitalist country, squeezing the last dime out of your customers is applauded. (Yes, that was a bit sarcastic &#8211; there are lots of things I do like about the US). It doesn&#8217;t just stop at convenience fees, other &#8220;hidden&#8221; fees often apply when making a purchase, or entering into an agreement with a service provider. At least in the European Union, all fees has to be included in the advertised price up front. No need to rob the customers blinds through the backdoor.</p>
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		<title>By: Correction</title>
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		<dc:creator>Correction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 23:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mike  The percentage fee reflects the level of risk not effort.  CC companies take on risk when they process transactions.  The percentage fee is greater when the calculated risk of fraud is higher.  This is why online merchants pay greater fees than brick-and-mortar merchants.

Taxes are low risk, because payment is enforced by law.  Still that fee sounds low - you might actually be paying a wire transfer fee and not a merchant account fee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mike  The percentage fee reflects the level of risk not effort.  CC companies take on risk when they process transactions.  The percentage fee is greater when the calculated risk of fraud is higher.  This is why online merchants pay greater fees than brick-and-mortar merchants.</p>
<p>Taxes are low risk, because payment is enforced by law.  Still that fee sounds low &#8211; you might actually be paying a wire transfer fee and not a merchant account fee.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Rawlinson</title>
		<link>http://www.returncustomer.com/2009/03/18/why-customers-hate-convenience-fees-for-credit-card-transactions/#comment-81643</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Rawlinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 02:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike - the effort for the transaction is the same. It is all about making money and the percentage fees allow the credit card companies to do exactly that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike &#8211; the effort for the transaction is the same. It is all about making money and the percentage fees allow the credit card companies to do exactly that.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Rennie</title>
		<link>http://www.returncustomer.com/2009/03/18/why-customers-hate-convenience-fees-for-credit-card-transactions/#comment-81637</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Rennie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 18:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would the fee be a percentage of the total sale? I paid my tax bill online and that fee was $40-ish on a quarterly tax bill of $2300-ish. Why would that transaction require more effort or technology than a $50 transaction?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would the fee be a percentage of the total sale? I paid my tax bill online and that fee was $40-ish on a quarterly tax bill of $2300-ish. Why would that transaction require more effort or technology than a $50 transaction?</p>
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		<title>By: Deanna Green</title>
		<link>http://www.returncustomer.com/2009/03/18/why-customers-hate-convenience-fees-for-credit-card-transactions/#comment-80678</link>
		<dc:creator>Deanna Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are a small business that accepts credit cards.  We also offer charge accounts for customers.   Our problem is more and more customers are paying their charge accounts with credit cards each month,   we are talking $5,000 charges here, which is eating us alive in charges from the credit card companies.   Can we limit our acceptance of credit cards for time of purchase sales only and not accept them for &quot;charge account&quot; payments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are a small business that accepts credit cards.  We also offer charge accounts for customers.   Our problem is more and more customers are paying their charge accounts with credit cards each month,   we are talking $5,000 charges here, which is eating us alive in charges from the credit card companies.   Can we limit our acceptance of credit cards for time of purchase sales only and not accept them for &#8220;charge account&#8221; payments?</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://www.returncustomer.com/2009/03/18/why-customers-hate-convenience-fees-for-credit-card-transactions/#comment-80580</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oless - When you say the costs of taking credit card payments is considerably lower than paying for a cashier, I have to wonder how much research may have been provided to you. An everyday example from the utility world may help put it in perspective. 

Let&#039;s say a 50,000 member electric cooperative has 1% (500) of its customers pay their bills online without a convenience fee -- the utility would pay all associated transaction fees. Online credit card payments carry about a 3% rate of the total transaction amount. With an average payment of $100 per month ($600,000 total), the utility winds up paying 3% over the course of a year, or $18,000.00. 

That’s just to let ONE PERCENT of their customers pay their bills online. Having been a cashier in college, I do believe this at least rivals the average salary of a cashier. The national average for online utility payments is around 5%, so throw in another 4% paying online, and your utility has just paid $90,000.00 in the last year to let those customers pay with a credit card. Clearly it&#039;s not as cheap to take credit card payments as it may seem. And those are just the credit card fees themselves. We haven’t even begun paying for the media for taking those payments that have to be in place, like a bank draft, Web site, or telephone IVR interface.

As I pointed out earlier... utilities are usually non-profit or not-for-profit and simply charge the customer according to the customer&#039;s usage shown by their utility meter. The utility simply provides the medium to get the product (electricity, gas, water, etc) from the wholesaler to the customer and typically do not have &quot;bottom lines&quot; to improve. Apart from personal incomes of utility employees, utility charters do not allow operation as a profitable entity as a corporation like Abercrombie and Fitch or Sony would. The utility would find it difficult, just as you or I would, to invest in new ways of providing services regardless how affordable those services may be compared to alternative methods. You’re “buy-one-get-one-free” coupon does little good if you can’t afford the first object to begin with.

Now imagine you’re a utility who can’t afford to include credit card payments in your budget, yet your members demand online bill pay via credit card. They even tell you they would gladly pay to make it happen. What do you do? The convenience fee model is actually a win-win situation made possible by the demand of utility customers themselves. I agree, convenience fees from for-profit organizations like my favorite antique dealer are not only strange, they also go against nearly every credit card merchant agreement to date. But for not-for-profit organizations they provide an opportunity not possible otherwise, and the credit card companies’ concession to them for the utility industry as of late is ample evidence of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oless &#8211; When you say the costs of taking credit card payments is considerably lower than paying for a cashier, I have to wonder how much research may have been provided to you. An everyday example from the utility world may help put it in perspective. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say a 50,000 member electric cooperative has 1% (500) of its customers pay their bills online without a convenience fee &#8212; the utility would pay all associated transaction fees. Online credit card payments carry about a 3% rate of the total transaction amount. With an average payment of $100 per month ($600,000 total), the utility winds up paying 3% over the course of a year, or $18,000.00. </p>
<p>That’s just to let ONE PERCENT of their customers pay their bills online. Having been a cashier in college, I do believe this at least rivals the average salary of a cashier. The national average for online utility payments is around 5%, so throw in another 4% paying online, and your utility has just paid $90,000.00 in the last year to let those customers pay with a credit card. Clearly it&#8217;s not as cheap to take credit card payments as it may seem. And those are just the credit card fees themselves. We haven’t even begun paying for the media for taking those payments that have to be in place, like a bank draft, Web site, or telephone IVR interface.</p>
<p>As I pointed out earlier&#8230; utilities are usually non-profit or not-for-profit and simply charge the customer according to the customer&#8217;s usage shown by their utility meter. The utility simply provides the medium to get the product (electricity, gas, water, etc) from the wholesaler to the customer and typically do not have &#8220;bottom lines&#8221; to improve. Apart from personal incomes of utility employees, utility charters do not allow operation as a profitable entity as a corporation like Abercrombie and Fitch or Sony would. The utility would find it difficult, just as you or I would, to invest in new ways of providing services regardless how affordable those services may be compared to alternative methods. You’re “buy-one-get-one-free” coupon does little good if you can’t afford the first object to begin with.</p>
<p>Now imagine you’re a utility who can’t afford to include credit card payments in your budget, yet your members demand online bill pay via credit card. They even tell you they would gladly pay to make it happen. What do you do? The convenience fee model is actually a win-win situation made possible by the demand of utility customers themselves. I agree, convenience fees from for-profit organizations like my favorite antique dealer are not only strange, they also go against nearly every credit card merchant agreement to date. But for not-for-profit organizations they provide an opportunity not possible otherwise, and the credit card companies’ concession to them for the utility industry as of late is ample evidence of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Rawlinson</title>
		<link>http://www.returncustomer.com/2009/03/18/why-customers-hate-convenience-fees-for-credit-card-transactions/#comment-79805</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Rawlinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dan - You&#039;re right. The smaller the business and sales volume, the more the credit card fees hurt. Returns, as you note, are very real and the overhead of the credit card processing has to be absorbed by the business. I&#039;ve had some success with Paypal, Amazon Payments, or Google Checkout that seem to refund even their fees when you have to refund a customer. However, your situation may not allow those payment processors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dan &#8211; You&#8217;re right. The smaller the business and sales volume, the more the credit card fees hurt. Returns, as you note, are very real and the overhead of the credit card processing has to be absorbed by the business. I&#8217;ve had some success with Paypal, Amazon Payments, or Google Checkout that seem to refund even their fees when you have to refund a customer. However, your situation may not allow those payment processors.</p>
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